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9 things you don't know about the iPad 3

Seeded on Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:58 PM EST
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Summary: In the spirit of guessing about products we have no real information about, here are 9 things you don’t know about the iPad 3.

Sometimes we get it right. Sometimes we don’t. We mostly got the Kindle Fire right, making many correct guesses (and although I didn’t expect the $199 price, I said that was the price necessarily for a breakout product — and it was). On the other hand, we got the iPhone 5 wrong. As we all well know, there was no iPhone 5.

So, in the spirit of guessing about products we have no real information about, here are 9 things you don’t know about the iPad 3.

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You might not care enough to buy one — this is the big rub. Doesn't everyone who really wants an iPad already have an iPad? Sure, there are those who desperately want one but aren't willing to fork over $500 or more. But if Apple's not dropping the price a lot, the only buyers will be those who already have iPads. And why? Just because Apple makes people crazy in lust, that's why.

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#1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST
Roy-933464

But if Apple's not dropping the price a lot, the only buyers will be those who already have iPads. And why? Just because Apple makes people crazy in lust, that's why.

When I was a kid, I was stoked because all predictions said that we would be liviing like the Jetsons by now, and I'd be driving a flying car and a robot name Rosie would clean my house. I remember playing Pong, Atari 2600, Intellivision, Colecovision, Nintendo, Dreamcast, etc., and eagerly awaiting the next best thing. What is it with the have-nots always trying to piss on everybody else's parade?! Lol. If you don't want an iPad 1, 2, or 3, then don't buy one!!! As you can probably guess, I most certainly will buy an iPad 3. If something should come out to smoke Apple's product, I will most certainly buy it instead. But guess what...one of these days when i'm an old fart, I won't find any enjoyment in shiny new things either. I just couldn't imagine being in my 20's, 30's, 40's and living that way. Live, people. Live!!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:17 AM EST
Gulliver's Island

I most certainly will buy an iPad 3

I'd love a powerful 7" tablet with blue-tooth and HDMI out that could run Apps from the Apple store, but it depends on the price.

Most probably, I will just end up resenting it because it is too expensive.

The Kindle fire has its limitations, but for $200 I can live with them. Heck, I have a Roku on my TV if I want to watch videos from Amazon on a larger screen.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:35 AM EST
Roy-933464

I'd love a powerful 7" tablet with blue-tooth and HDMI out that could run Apps from the Apple store, but it depends on the price.

From my embarrassingly extensive gadget buying and selling experience, I don't want Apple to change a thing. People laugh at the idea of "resale" as it relates to tech, but Apple is the exception to the rule. Apple total ownership costs are far lower than say a similar Android device due to resale value. I buy an iPad2 32GB Wifi for $589 (with a no tax privilege that I enjoy), i'm guaranteed to be able to sell it for at least $475 within a couple of hours. That's just one real life example. If price is the only deterrant to iPad, consider it a partially refundable deposit.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:24 AM EST
Gulliver's Island

i'm guaranteed to be able to sell it for at least $475 within a couple of hours

I don't buy my electronics so I can resell it in a couple of hours.

I don't want Apple to change a thing.

I don't understand why anyone would want to lug around a 10 inch tablet.

    #1.4 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:28 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    I put a lot of technical books on my iPad and they are much easier to read on that device instead of the Playbook that I have. The Android based tablets tend to be even larger, because they often tried to create this 'movie' aspect ratio, so they are even bulkier.

    • 1 vote
    #1.5 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:33 PM EST
    Gulliver's Island

    I put a lot of technical books on my iPad

    I can see it for that purpose. But wouldn't you want the option of a smaller tablet for convenience?

      #1.6 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM EST
      Jonathan-1917156

      I have no idea, all I can say is that the screen on my playbook (which is a lot smaller) isn't large enough. The rumour has it that the iPad3 has a retina display, so that may be enough of a tradeoff to make the device smaller, but until I see it, can't say.

      We are doing some development on it, and the playbook is ok for that, but developing for the playbook is more than a pain in the ass, so we chose not to use that, even though it links in to our blackberry phones.

      The one thing I can say about Apple, and I really hope they don't change this, is that it is a common platform to develop for, and that goes for screen size, aspect ratio etc... It makes it much easier to develop for (though apple did change it for the iPhone 4, it was an exact doubling in both directions for the screen, meaning that the old resources would work on the new device without change). Blackberry's have all kinds of different form factors, making it much harder to develop for. Android is in a lot of ways, just a pain to develop for.

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      #1.7 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:51 PM EST
      Gulliver's Island

      I use a Kindle during my daily commute for reading. I can't see holding a larger device. It would probably attract thieves and also take longer to put away as I am getting ready to debark.

        #1.8 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:54 PM EST
        Jonathan-1917156

        I don't just use them to read books though.

          #1.9 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:22 PM EST
          Gulliver's Island

          If I had the money laying around with nothing better, who wouldn't want an iPad?

            #1.10 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:49 PM EST
            Roy-933464

            I don't buy my electronics so I can resell it in a couple of hours.

            I don't sell them in a couple of hours; I was referring to the fact that it only takes me a couple of hours on Craigslist to sell an Apple (iPhone or iPad)...to such a point that I make sure to erase, repackage, bring to work to meet a buyer at lunch. Since cost was a primary consideration for you, I was giving you a different perspective - ownership cost versus sticker shock. If you're one to fill cabinets with antique trons, not the plan for you probably. I consume technology. Own an iPad for 6 months to a year, recover all initial cost minus about $120 in my case = $10-$20 per month ownership costs.

            • 1 vote
            #1.11 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:24 PM EST
            Gulliver's Island

            I generally run my electronics until it either emits a plume of smoke or it is no longer compatible with anything. I was running Windows 2000 until Turbo-Tax no longer supported it, for example.

              #1.12 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:27 PM EST
              Roy-933464

              I generally run my electronics until it either emits a plume of smoke or it is no longer compatible with anything.

              Yeah...I let others savor that experience. Lol. They appreciate me absorbing the initial depreciation. Win-win.

              I'd recommend Craigslist or refurb with warranty for you, GI.

              • 2 votes
              #1.13 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:30 PM EST
              MatthewM

              I can see it for that purpose. But wouldn't you want the option of a smaller tablet for convenience?

              I can't see how anything smaller than an iPad shouldn't be a phone.

              The difference between the iPhone and iPad in size seem perfect to me. Also, its clear from Apple's range of products and previous history they aren't in the habit of trying to fill every single niche. They have clearly delineated products and they can't make enough of them.

              Unlike say Samsung with a gazillion phone models which just shows to me that they don't really know what they want to do. Of course that's just MY opinion, Im sure the suits and Samsung know exactly what they're doing.

                #1.14 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:25 AM EST
                Gulliver's Island

                I can't see how anything smaller than an iPad shouldn't be a phone

                This is why I don't own Apple products. (Except and ipod, that is.) What I really want, Apple doesn't offer.

                  #1.15 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:21 AM EST
                  MatthewM

                  Well then you have the choice to go elsewhere.

                  Apple deem iPhone and iPad the best sizes currently. Id just having the 2 sizes and 2 models they cut manufacturing costs enormously.

                  Who knows, they may introduce a smaller iPad at some point but it seems very unlikely.

                  for me a midi size tablet/phone is just a weird size, and @!$%# at being either a tablet or a phone.

                    #1.16 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:37 AM EST
                    Gulliver's Island

                    Well then you have the choice to go elsewhere.

                    Ya think?

                      #1.17 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:10 AM EST
                      MatthewM

                      of course, Android. Apparently it sells more handsets than Apple. THough it only gets a small bite of the profits.

                        #1.18 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:00 AM EST
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                        Jay Butler

                        The piece might be more appropriately titled "9 Things David Gewirtz Doesn't Know About the iPad 3". A list of might's, should's and could's is hardly a list of things he knows. But, it is ZDNet. I should have lowered my expectations appropriately.

                        Last year, people could have made the assumption that the iPad market was saturated. But, Apple kept moving huge numbers of them throughout the entire year. Why would Gewirtz believe that the market is completely saturated at this point? Flame bait.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:50 PM EST
                        Gulliver's Island

                        Flame bait.

                        Or 'bated breath.

                        • 1 vote
                        #2.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:21 PM EST
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                        digcreation

                        it might be able to teleport you. then again, maybe not.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:09 PM EST
                        mstanley2265

                        I have little info one way or the other but will clip to the Computers & Internet group

                        • 1 vote
                        #4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:11 PM EST
                        Gulliver's Island

                        I've been hearing the rumor, for a while now, that the next iPad would have a smaller screen. There are definitely times when I feel safer during my commute with a smaller rather than larger device in my hands.

                        • 2 votes
                        #4.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:16 PM EST
                        mstanley2265

                        I'm retired and when I do go on a Road Trip take my laptop. I may very well look into one of those. But I can also use my iPhone for interent too..just too small ...:)

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:17 PM EST
                        Jonathan-1917156

                        gullivers,

                        my ex always preferred the larger device.

                        • 2 votes
                        #4.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:31 PM EST
                        Gulliver's Island

                        my ex always preferred the larger device.

                        You're talking about tablets, right?

                        • 2 votes
                        #4.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:32 PM EST
                        Jonathan-1917156

                        no, lol.

                        as for tablets, for some things, the playbook is more convenient, for other things the ipad is more convenient. I have both. That is in terms of size. In terms of usability, the iPad blows away the competition

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:40 PM EST
                        Jay Butler

                        I'm retired and when I do go on a Road Trip take my laptop

                        It is a great device for travel. It is so much easier to slip into a carryon than a laptop. The battery life is awesome. We were able to use it for most of what we needed on vacation. Plus, there are some apps like TripAdvisor that just work great with a touch interface.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:58 PM EST
                        Gulliver's Island

                        My wife has been checking out my Kindle Fire and is thinking of getting it for her next trip, since it is only $200.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:30 AM EST
                        Gulliver's Island

                        BTW - the built-in web-browser with the Kindle Fire does not work with Newsvine. It doesn't resolve the articles past a members homepage. I seem to remember that Amazon does some sort of caching on the server side to speed up web-browsing. If that is the case, they've hosed Newsvine.

                          #4.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:21 AM EST
                          MatthewM

                          pretty sure you can turn that caching off. And wasnt there some speed tests which actually showed it was slower.

                          BTW, Kindle Fire is not the same as the iPad - as in they do not serve the same purpose of have the same functions. So if youre making a or the other choice, price is not the only variable.

                          As for these "What will Apple product $X+1 be?" articles - I hate them. No one out side of a few people in Apple REALLY knows what it will be and Apple are known for distributing mis-information so theyre purely link bait and definitely massive flashing neon signs for bad journalism.

                          I understand people like to guess at the next Apple product but Id rather it was kept to forums and 'proper' journalists kept their speculative noses out.

                          Personally, I doubt the size will change but the res probably will. Not that I care, my iPad 1 is fine.

                          • 1 vote
                          #4.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:08 AM EST
                          Gulliver's Island

                          Apple are known for distributing mis-information

                          The Supreme Court is about to make that a crime.

                          • 1 vote
                          #4.10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:20 AM EST
                          MatthewM

                          Err what, distributing misinformation about potential new products a crime? in your great American free-market?

                          You jest surely?

                          or misunderstand my sentence?

                          • 1 vote
                          #4.11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:12 AM EST
                          Gulliver's Island

                          You jest surely?

                          The Supreme Court is actually hearing a case with regard to whether "lying" is constitutionally protected speech. The could rule narrowly or widely on the issue and it could have wide reaching implications.

                          There's a news story in rotation on NPR for the last day or so on All Things Considered and Morning Edition.

                          • 2 votes
                          #4.12 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:52 AM EST
                          MatthewM

                          Im not sure its lying really and im sure many companies distribute misinformation to put competitors off their trail.

                          Besides, when is it 'lying' and when is the product just changing.

                          I dont really see how this serves the consumers interest, but it's your country i guess.

                            #4.13 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:11 AM EST
                            Jay Butler

                            It would be tough to pin a company down on lying about a pre-release product. That is especially true of information that is informally leaked.

                            I am sure that Apple has many prototypes of the next iPad with all sorts of features that may or may not make it into the final product. Every hardware/software company probably operates in exactly the same way.

                            One of the key features that Microsoft was for Windows Vista was a new file system called WinFS that would replace NTFS and FAT32. They published this in documents and talked about it at events. About 6 months prior to release, they announced that the key feature was being dropped and the team that was working on the new file system disbanded. Would that have constituted "lying"?

                            • 2 votes
                            #4.14 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:13 AM EST
                            MatthewM

                            I guess this is one of those laws like the one where every smart phone is 'supposed' (for a reason I cant quite fathom) to have the same connection - where I'll believe it when I see it.

                              #4.15 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:13 AM EST
                              Gulliver's Island

                              I find the case very confusing. It's already illegal to engage in false advertising and to make false statements to the IRS or to the police. The particular case in question has to do with someone who claimed to be a war hero and I think claimed he won the congressional medal of honor. In Arizona (or whatever state he was lying about this in) there was a law on the books concerning "Stolen Valor." The guy is claiming the law is unconstitutional and the Supreme Court is hearing the case.

                              I don't why the people covering this case are acting like it could turn the world upside down. Sometimes you can lie and sometimes you can't. It seems to depend on whether the lying causes harm. To just have laws making it illegal to lie about trivial things is kind of authoritarian.

                              People have called this article I have seeded here about Apple complete bull@!$%#. What kind of world would it be if the press had to worry about the legality of publishing complete bull@!$%#?

                              Apple makes people crazy in lust, that's why.

                              That's a lie! Sue the bastard!

                              • 1 vote
                              #4.16 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:31 AM EST
                              MatthewM

                              Err, the press SHOULD publish what they believe to be true, not bull@!$%#.

                              If you think otherwise then you have some crazy ideas of morality there.

                              for the record:

                              Apple makes people crazy in lust, that's why.

                              thats an opinion so it irrelevant.

                              I know youre groping for a hook here and I feel slightly guilty for biting but what the hell, I had to go down to your level a little. Theres no need to engage in puerile trolling.

                                #4.17 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:39 AM EST
                                MatthewM

                                Im quite surprised youre engaging in the comments or even allowing them by the way. I had the distinct impression you felt they were below you.

                                baby steps.

                                  #4.18 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:43 AM EST
                                  Gulliver's Island

                                  baby steps.

                                  I have you on ignore and I don't see that ever changing.

                                    #4.19 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:50 AM EST
                                    MatthewM

                                    fair enough, i don't have you on ignore as Im hopeful for change

                                      #4.20 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST
                                      Gulliver's Island

                                      but it's your country i guess.

                                      Are you from eastern Europe?

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #4.21 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST
                                      MatthewM

                                      Im in the UK.

                                      How do you mean?

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #4.22 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST
                                      Gulliver's Island

                                      How do you mean?

                                      Didn't mean much by it. I was just wondering where you were from if you weren't American.

                                      You guys in the UK were smart enough to avoid the euro, so I can't tease you about that.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #4.23 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST
                                      MatthewM

                                      The Euro seemed like a good idea at the time. It hasn't helped that they got Greece involved who's train system employes more people than it has passengers.

                                      The Greeks apparently joke that its cheaper to take a taxi than the train.

                                        #4.24 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:48 AM EST
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